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5 comments | Friday, January 16, 2009

So CNN political commentator and author Roland Martin thinks the good ole' electric shock or excessive prayer and bible study can do away with the gay? I want to believe that the progressive and intelligent individual he presents himself to be would know that reparative therapy doesn't work and is actually harmful.

In an interview from August of 2008 journalist Max Blumenthal asks Martin about a column he wrote a couple of years prior about a gay man from Martin's church who with the help of Martin's wife, a minister, was able to "walk away from his homosexual lifestyle".

Blumenthal recently discussed the Martin dust-up as a guest on The Michelangelo Signorile Show.

I'm holding out on passing judgement on this one, but you can feel free to weigh in with your thoughts.

Both clips can be viewed below:


<$BlogCommentAuthor$> said...

It's hard to say. It seems that Martin's wife, a leader at Salem Baptist Church, advised a gay man at the church who came to her "in crisis". The crisis (as it always is with gay men who attend these churches) was how to "reconcile" his homosexuality with being a Bible school teacher. Martin says his wife advised the gay man that he could not engage in sexual activity (in other words, he had to be celibate) if he wanted to remain in his position. Martin appears to agree with his wife's council.

In the second video, you have the interviewer plus another guy talking about Roland and whether he does or does not advocate repareative therapy.

I want to address another issue.
I imagine that some black gays will look at both videos and ask why are white gay men giving a straight black man a hard time over this. I hear black gay men saying/thinking: "they" (white gays) are doing "our" (black gays) job. From where I sit, I'm glad SOMEONE is challenging the Martins of the world because clearly black gay men are not going to do it. They haven't done it yet. Nothing is stopping them except their own fear and self-hatred. Most black gay men want to be embedded in the black community and they are unwilling to ANYTHING to jeopardize their "black card".

January 16, 2009 9:37 AM

<$BlogCommentAuthor$> said...

It is interesting you bring this up, he fiercely defended Warren, I don't think this man likes gays.

January 16, 2009 3:59 PM

<$BlogCommentAuthor$> said...

If I was Warren's wife I may have done the same thing. The only difference being i would have given him both options. Truth is, in regards to Christianity and Homosexuality we just don't know anything absolutely.

If you research how God feels about us, you will find just as much material giving reasons why they believe God accepts gays as you will find material that says he does not. Ultimately you have to decide what you feel and are comfortable with and move forward from their.

I believe that everyone has a path that they can and should follow to their true self. I needed to follow the Conversion path to finally arrive at and realize that I am made the way God intended me. But the realization is something that every gay individual needs to come to on their own. When I stand before God after I pass. I can say that I fully decided to be ME as God made me with no shame or self-hatred. But I had to come to that decision on my own.

Some gay people may not have issues with their religion in regards to their sexuality. But others might. In some instances I think it's healthy to deal with those issues in whatever way makes sense to that individual. The best thing I can do is be the person who loves and accepts them no matter what decision they make in the end. A position that I know their "Christian" friends and family members will probably not share. I think this should be echoed to all my other relationships as well. Let my love be a reflection of what I think God's love is like.

January 17, 2009 2:37 AM

<$BlogCommentAuthor$> said...

I have a gal friend that went through shock treatments - she's not the same - and barely even a functioning human anymore - can we STOP these people? They already stole my guy I loved (I THINK, not sure, but I believe he believes their lies even if he isn't gay! so he back their nonsense nonethless because of where he goes to worship, or shall I say, listen to that super-queen Sy come and preach against gay love)

anyhow, the shock treatments, or the excessive forced praying or making people stay in the word to the point of emotionally abusing themselves for having gay thoughts is EVIL! God help them break free! (please PRAY that with me!)

January 17, 2009 11:11 PM

<$BlogCommentAuthor$> said...

I think that in an attempt to be accepted by the world, not by God, that Roland Marin is just "pulling straws out of a hat" trying to come up with a solution for an issue that the entire world is still very clueless about.

The black gay struggle is still in it's infancy stage. It's only been recently that blacks have had to acknowledge the elephant in the room and discuss the very uncomfortable issue of homosexuality. So irrational theories, explanations, and solutions by other blacks should come as no surprise to anyone.

It is totally up to gay black men to not continue to be shameful, break out of our comfort zones, stand up for our lives and define who we are OURSELVES. Our complacancy with sweeping it back under the rug, trying to blend in, and ignoring the facts only silences our voice and gives our power away.

January 19, 2009 12:25 PM


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