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21 comments | Wednesday, May 09, 2007

From jasymnecannick.com

Earlier this week I posted a blurb about fellow blogger Bernie Tarver’s blog on the Chicago Department of Public Health’s newly released report on the latest rate of syphilis and HIV infections.

Apparently, the report was a follow-up to an investigation they conducted into the unsafe sexual practices conducted by FlavaWorks, operators of the Internet website CocoDorm.com, where young gay Black and Latin men engage in sexual acts for the enjoyment of viewers who pay a membership fee to watch.

Well tonight in South Florida on NBC 6, reporter Jeff Burnside will discuss a house in a neighborhood that features Black and Latino men who have sex with men for money (Click here for the preview).

Also, since posting my initial blog on the Chicago Department of Public Heath’s report, the powers at be over at Flavaworks have begun to try and legally make me remove the information and from what I hear, they’re doing it to everyone who references the report and Flavaworks.

I know people, even here in Los Angeles, that throw sex parties for men. These parties are highly attended and often involve unsafe sex. The people that give these parties are very much involved in the community and do support financially, but at the same time I have issues with them because I know like they know that HIV and AIDS is still very much an issue for the Black gay male community.

When we look at HIV and AIDS in our community, we also have to look at the role that we play in it as well. These parties and the South Florida houses of the world, are just as much to blame in the spreading of HIV in our community as is the government’s lack of adequate funding for prevention efforts.

There’s a lot of money to be made in sex, and gay male sex at that. But what’s the cost? Our lives? And I am posing the question because like I said, I know people who thrown these types of parties here in Los Angeles and while I have never gone, friends of mine have and it bothers me because they’re playing Russian Roulette.

I suspect that like with the down low, the South Florida story tonight may spark a national discussion on the sexual practices of gay men, and we will be right smack dab in the middle of it. And like with the down low, it will get labeled as a Black thing, when we all know that bath houses from here to Japan, cater to white gay men among others.


Since I posted the above story on the pending legal issues of Flavaworks Entertainment, I along with fellow bloggers Jasmyne Cannick, Bernie Tarver, and C. Baptiste Williams have become a target for attack by the staff at CocoDorm. At the time of my post I simply cut and pasted Jasmyne's commentary because I found it to be interesting and honestly dead on. I hadn't really formulated an opinion but I felt it was newsworthy and would definitely affect our community negatively at some point.

Let's get one thing straight. If the models at CocoDorm are having unsafe sex and the management is profiting off of this, the argument that it doesn't affect anyone else because the individuals are adults is bullshit! We are all aware that new HIV/AIDS infections are out of control in our community, and when a person is infected it not only affects the individual but the people who love them as well.

This is not about denying the staff at CocoDorm the right to run their porn business, but it's about holding people accountable for putting our Black brothers at risk. It's obvious that at the end of the day this entire operation is about money. I could care less about the "business" aspect of Coco Dorm, my concern is about the health of the models and the negative images that will be displayed over the next few days to the public that will cause a major backlash on our community.

We are constantly fighting to tell our stories and to have positive representation of our lives in the media and this is what my mother will get to see when she turns on the evening news. The men of Coco Dorm in no way represent what I stand for and I'm appauled that they've taken it upon themselves to attack those within the community who work to lift us up and not tear us down.

They've already threatened and failed to shut down Jasmyne and Bernie's blog, so I guess I'm next on the list to receive an e-mail or a phone call. I hope they know I'm not moved.

The saga continues here .


<$BlogCommentAuthor$> said...

Funny....why should I vote for any politician to take MY tax dollars for YOUR prevention of HIV/AIDS? I am not the one in the bedroom helping you getting infected. It is not the government's job to fund programs if people would stop promiscuity and keep their dick in their pants and keep them zipped up! Yet, you have these homosexuals flashing their sexuality and want society to bless it as "normal." GET THE HELL OUTTA HERE!

Not only that, but why should I use MY tax dollars to take care of bastard children, and welfare programs that is keeping the "BLACK" community in bondage.

This is precisely why I like the plan of the Republican party to STOP babysitting grown people.

May 09, 2007 1:54 PM

<$BlogCommentAuthor$> said...

As a former Cocodorm model i pride my self in being STD free, and plan to keep i that way.I remember going to get tested my second day at the dorm. It was a group of us from Cocodorm, and one of the boys came back positive of an STD the next day he was sent home.I think Cocodorm handled it the way they were supposed too. Last time i checked straight men and women get std's too. have children under age(babies having babies)to me thats still unprotected sex but I'am sure your tax dollars go to them too.. homosexuals are not asking you to bless our sexuality, but to be opened minded about it.

May 09, 2007 2:30 PM

<$BlogCommentAuthor$> said...

oooo i saw this on hisstory.blogspot.com yesterday this is a mess will be interesting to see what comes of it

May 09, 2007 3:14 PM

<$BlogCommentAuthor$> said...

are u jealous ur not dorm quality by any means? maybe u hsould get some sex so ull lay off and stop commenting on things udont know

May 09, 2007 3:33 PM

<$BlogCommentAuthor$> said...

OMG that was like really ignorant for u to say so i laugh at it lol. Me as a homosexual isn't asking for anyone to bless me and praise me for being gay but respect the fact that I am gay and its not a choice because if it was I'll have a girlfriend and wouldn't go through things i have went through. those of us who are out shouldn't be bashed for being out. In fact we are the brave majority of the community who actually will stand and fight for gay rights while you DL boys (because men are real and take life as it is and do our best to make it) sit in your corners and try to play both sides of the fence. By the way your tax dollars shouldn't just go the prevention of just homosexual disease exchange. It should go towards bringing awareness to everyone. gay straight black and white alike.

well you know what i cant do anything but respect your opinion and keep it moving.

May 09, 2007 5:00 PM

<$BlogCommentAuthor$> said...

By all means I love the dorm and sometimes I wish I was apart of the dorm family... and the Captain why are you even talking. We live in a society on the basis of rights... to every man and to every single human being. Jus because we're not like you does not mean that we don't have any emotions. This is what Americans have truly become... all about themselves satisfying their own desires with pleasures and what they call the psychological state of happiness. If you have nothing good to say... jus shut up. I believe in the cocodorm family and that they will come thru every little and big obsticle. I may not kno what happens inside the house but certainly it is their business and whatever they feel is to be done there, let them. They're not hurting no one and they're not doing anything illegal... this NBC news is bogus cuz they always try and put the gay man down and it sickens me. I show my support to the Cocodorm family and this thing in which alot of people stereotype about gay men shows the immaturity of many that don't think for themselves but listen to a society of educated bookworms but uneducated street life. Live to learn, learn to live... stop judging and let them be.

May 09, 2007 8:22 PM

<$BlogCommentAuthor$> said...

These "advocate/activist" blogs are supposed to be about promoting PRIDE and respect, to the end that we take better care of ourselves when having sex.

Why does it seem like there is so much moral judgement being written or expressed when it comes to the Cocodorm?

If indeed the issue is unsafe sex practices then we MUST review the facts. The case in Chicago was dropped. The allegations of models at the dorm having STD's is highly improbable. Unsafe sex is not condoned, nor encouraged, at the dorm.

So, if this is indeed about unsafe sex practices then these "advocate/activist" sites need to move on and leave Cocodorm alone. Unless they want to promote the Dorm by telling their readers to join and take notes on how safe sex should be handled in both duo and group situations.

May 09, 2007 8:28 PM

<$BlogCommentAuthor$> said...

All you "PRO-DORM" fools sound like idiots !! Everyone of your "they not bothering anybody" arguments are the same ones people use that are against registering sex offenders in neighborhoods ! And just like people have the right to say they don't want that mess around kids, they can easily say that they don't want that coco-mess !!! Defend it all you want, but if they weren't doing SOMETHING to draw attention, THEN THE COPS WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN OUT THERE FOUR TIMES BEFORE !!!! You all sound like desperate homo's that are terrified that somebody is going to take away your porno. nOBODY IS SAYING THEY CAN'T HAVE A BUSINESS, JUST MOVE THAT SHIT TO A WAREHOUSE AWAY FROM KIDS! GET A LIFE! jeez!

May 09, 2007 8:37 PM

<$BlogCommentAuthor$> said...

Obviously, we do have some jealous individuals out here. We will find out in the lone run who is really SALTY!!

May 09, 2007 8:54 PM

<$BlogCommentAuthor$> said...

I didn't mention anything about the dorm. I can careless.

May 09, 2007 10:44 PM

<$BlogCommentAuthor$> said...

Live in Miami - thugzilla.com, ohh no I guess they are going to go after them next...

If this were the playboy mansion no one would care. What are they going to do shut down every adult oriented website that broadcasts live video? There are thousands of them. Probably many in Miami alone.

This is just some homophobic retaliation of some disgruntled competition.

Seriously people, I am sure there are more pressing things to worry about on the streets of Miami. Drug Dealers, Murders, Armed Robbery, Prostitution, Homelessness, . . . not to mention ohh yeah the WAR in Iraq . . . . . . .

No let’s worry about some guys having sex, and broadcasting it over the internet for a fee. This is really ridiculous, let’s get our priorities in order.

May 10, 2007 12:21 AM

<$BlogCommentAuthor$> said...

ok all the ones that say cocdorm is safe and all this.. are liars. That is the most unsafe working conditions ive seem in the modern day besides sweatshops; unprotected sex and more then one fight. I am in contact with several former models and they hated ever moment being there. Not getting paid as well as being exposed to std.. when MORE THEN ONE model had STD/HIV. not having unprotected sex bs.. all the night shows that have off schedule some models use protection. and protection only goes so far cause you have models doing other sexual acts without using the (oral sex)... Im not saying shut it does im just sayin get everyone tested and get rid of Phil. becuase he is an asshole of a boss...

May 10, 2007 7:41 AM

<$BlogCommentAuthor$> said...

For the record, this is the letter that started the ruckus

503 N.E. 27th Street. Off of 27th and Biscayne

At the above address, you will find the location for a black gay sex prostitution house.

This house is the current base of operations for a gay website named Cocodorm (www.cocodorm.com). The site features several cameras that that are placed in various rooms in the house that run 24 hours a day showing young black and latino men having sex with each other.

The papers contained in this package details the lurid history and well documented actions of this organization before being ousted out of Chicago, IL. You should also note that in all of the allegations levied against them, there is no action by the company to address them. They simply raised up and moved shop. To the house and address above. All of the reprehensible goings on are now occurring there.

You will also note the owner of the company, a middle aged white man by the name of Phillip Bleicher, has a long history of sordid affairs and shady dealings and is constantly embroiled in litigation, one of his cases included in the documents. Bleicher relocated his company, Flavaworks, from Chicago to Miami in May. The company’s office is located at 2610 N. Miami Ave.

This home is in a residential neighborhood full of children. Regardless of the legal rights this company may have to peddle it’s business, I don’t believe that it should be in such a neighborhood. I feel this situation bears your attention.

May 10, 2007 12:38 PM

<$BlogCommentAuthor$> said...

So here we are..

I sent the letter. Who am I? I can be a myriad of people…

Perhaps I’m a competitor
Perhaps I’m a past model
Perhaps I’m an angry neighbor that feels this shouldn’t be around children
Perhaps I’m someone who is currently litigation with the company
Perhaps I’m someone who doesn’t know this company at all and just have some moral outrage.

My point, it doesn’t matter who I am. Because I’m not the reason this media storm is happening, I’m just the current impetus for it. Flavaworks has gone through this many times before, and I warrant that it will go through it many times again. When you leave people devastated in your wake, you should expect consequences. You can hide behind the legal right to exist, that again, is not the point. There is a morality here that is ignored. And it is dismissed with a simple “Hey, it’s just business” You are a white owned company (Devin, I’m sorry part owner or not, is to obvious a calculated a move to create the illusion of a black figurehead, no different than “Thugzilla” being one for his white owned company) that is exploiting young black and latino men. You routinely use the word “nigga” as a marketing tool (referring to the banner on the Whatstea site “the Man trying to keep us down, but we niggas gonna come up” I’m paraphrasing here and it’s used on the DVD’s and on the COCODORM site).

There are many MANY other issues that we as humanity need to focus on, the war, homelessness, etc. And in that light this may seem small. But a big part of our anger at the larger issues is our belief that it is wrong ,MORALLY WRONG, for humanity to abide by these problems. It simply cannot be denied, the only thing being done here is a blind eye to the obvious. Yes, we all make choices in life, and there will always be those who don’t agree with my actions (but remember there we’re those that also justified slavery was right).

This is not to change the minds of those that believe I’m wrong for doing this. Nor is it to cause “The fall of Babylon”. Flavaworks won’t fall for this, they will get thru this, just like they did all other times. It’s just to bring things to light. So for all the “Pro-Dorm” folks..I leave this last statement.

Try to remember where “we” (read as African-Americans) were the last time white people felt comfortable using the word nigga as a marketing tool.

P.S. no I will not expose my identity, moral indignation has never needed a face or a name. All that it has ever needed was a will to be done.

May 10, 2007 12:40 PM

<$BlogCommentAuthor$> said...

First, I want to apologize to Darian and readers of his blog as this comment will be off topic and pointed directly towards one person, The Captain.

To The Captain, I don’t know you nor do you know me. I have read your comments on this blog and many other blog sites. What I am about to say is my opinion and not that of Darian or any other readers of Darian’s blog.

To The Captain…based on most of the comments you have posted here and other places I have read I have come to the conclusion that you are misguided with information, have some deep repressive issues that you need to face and deal with, and are filled with self-loathing (possibly because of repressive homosexual tendencies because I notice that you tend to follow gay-oriented blogs and try to spread your self-loathing and misinformation mostly on those places). Again, I state this is just my opinion. You could be a nice person for all I know and this is your way to deal with your personal issues. OK, now that I have that off my chest, let me address your recent comments to this post entry.

Promiscuity does not cause HIV/AIDS. I have met individuals who have been afflicted with HIV/AIDS through either birth, IV drug use, in a committed relationship (heterosexual and homosexual), virgins who caught it when they lost their virginity to someone they trusted, and those who received it via blood transfusions during a medical procedure.

Most homosexuals do not “flash” their sexuality and want society to bless it. Most homosexuals are regular masculine men and feminine woman who could care less if the President agrees with who they are (homosexuality is a state of being, not a lifestyle…this has been proven scientifically) but rather want equal treatment and protection under the law. The law, Federal and state, should not pick and choose who it will protect. The Captain, you should do some research on Jim Crow laws from the mid-1900s. The same issues gays and lesbians are dealing with now, African Americans, dealt with before. Jim Crow laws were enacted under the cloak of religion and bible scriptures just as the opponents of gay and lesbian rights are doing now.

Not only are your tax dollars taking “care of bastard children, and welfare programs that is keeping the "BLACK" community in bondage”, they are also being used to fund tax shelters for the rich upper class and to pay for billion-dollar Iraq Reconstruction contracts with companies that have financial ties with the vice-president and presidential advisor, Karl Rove.

I am happy that you choose to support the Republic plan, as I am sure they want your vote. But did you know that the Republic Party spent $2,000,000 to reach black voters during the 2004 election but spent several times that amount on political consultants to reach the white constituents. After the 2004 elections, the Republic Party (nor the Administration) has not held any dialogue, established outreach programs, or created financial investments for those Black religious groups that put them office in 2004. Oh, did you hear about how the Republican government responded to New Orleans in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina? I myself am non partisan. When it all boils down both parties just want your vote. It’s what they do after they are in office that matters.

Lastly, if you didn’t mention anything about the Cocodorm issue, why in the world are you even wasting reader’s time by posting your rambling, misguided, nonsensical comments here on Darian’s blog?

May 10, 2007 2:01 PM

<$BlogCommentAuthor$> said...

I'm am so mad that people are sitting around acting like H.I.V. started at the CocoDorm. When they found out that dude had H.I.V. he was gone, and no, they didnt keep it ah secret because I asked to work with him and they let me know. For anybody whos been into the dorm, you can clearly see posted all over the wall is rules, one is not to have sex with anybody outside the dorm. two, there is a big jar of condoms in everyroom. I just at the dorm and my HIV test come back clean

May 10, 2007 4:47 PM

<$BlogCommentAuthor$> said...

Pleasae let's ensure we have facts and not just take so called official reports as "the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth"

May 10, 2007 11:05 PM

<$BlogCommentAuthor$> said...

The alleged incident's that surrounded the Chicago Dorm were both sad and unfortunate, however I believe those matters have been address with that company and it's management. The dorm that I've personally lived in was in no way the picture that these slanderous reporters/competitors/and or Ex-model's or trying to paint . Along side of having to present Std result we were consistently reminded of safe sex practices and how they go hand and hand with the company /provided with safe sex educational brochures/ and even prohibited from engaging in any "High Risk Activity "(sexual contact) with people outside the dorm.
I would like to address the issue of Coco dorm exploiting young Black and Latin men. In adult entertainment there is bond to be exploitation that is what adult entertainer's are paid to do, willingly and legally sexually exploit their self's for the entertainment of others. To say me and my co-workers are in anyway being exploited is bogus and untrue we are compensated accordingly and aware of what we are doing. In my opinion the ones that are doing the exploiting are people saying Coco dorm does not always practice safe sex which is also bogus and untrue, giving people who are wrongfully misled the impression we are all infected and to top it off going back into our precious community's and infecting others….. HOW DARE YOU.

The whole incident is a soggy attempt bye competitors to slander Coco dorm and it's models for their personal gain. People will do anything to see you fall. But it wont work………..

May 11, 2007 3:36 AM

<$BlogCommentAuthor$> said...

For sake of clarity, the offices of Flava Works and the location of Cocodorm have different zip codes. Not only that but, we have ever had intentions of shutting down anyone's blog. We simply pointed out a couple of regulations that they weren't adhering to. On the flip side of that, we've directed traffic from our site to the sites of several bloggers to voice their opinions; good, bad or indifferent.

To quote T D Moderator:

"Why does it seem like there is so much moral judgment being written or expressed when it comes to the Cocodorm?

If indeed the issue is unsafe sex practices then we MUST review the facts. The case in Chicago was dropped. The allegations of models at the dorm having STD's is highly improbable. Unsafe sex is not condoned, nor encouraged, at the dorm.

So, if this is indeed about unsafe sex practices then these "advocate/activist" sites need to move on and leave Cocodorm alone. Unless they want to promote the Dorm by telling their readers to join and take notes on how safe sex should be handled in both duo and group situations."

What's truly off point is the fact that this debate ranging from genocide, to HIV to rape to the politically correct use of the word NIGGA stems from a news report broadcasting the dorm's location and painting a picture of the "danger within". To add fuel to the fire, Jeff Burnside of NBC 6, a man I believe to be as gay as Little Richard, pressured city officials to put some pressure on us in an attempt to get us to move. If the violations are valid they'll be corrected. It's as simple as that. All of these other shots serve no relevance in this case... but it makes for interesting conversation.

Anyone in the world can pick up a reference guide outlining American history to read up on the hardships Blacks have endured and over time it's become an ongoing debate as to what's acceptable to Black men/women. It's the same agitation that will continue to disembody this society when equality is the sole request we today and those before us have demanded. Coincidentally and unfortunately, the same debate continues with the interpretation of the Bible and will until the end of time.

I could never agree to bearing witness to someone outside of my race using the word NIGGA because it's a stinging reminder of the history I've had forged into memory. On another note, I have no issue with standing amongst a group of my people and not only accept the use of the word but, sling the word around myself without thinking twice.

I'm not sure if I'm actually illustrating a double standard or simply rambling but, I do want to point out how easy it has become for Black people to pull the race card as a concession to their passion for correction and dignity for the African American race. I commend you for exercising your God given right, however it takes about the same amount of energy to realize that inserting racial trends into interest group analogies is called marketing, not racism. There's proof of it on nearly every advertising/commercial you'll ever see. (Kool-Aid, Church's Chicken, Wal-Mart, Miller Light and even Coke)

The reality is, and I'm just gonna be blunt, when I'm having sex I'm more likely to say, "DAMN NIGGA!" as opposed to calling out my partner's name.

May 11, 2007 10:28 AM

<$BlogCommentAuthor$> said...

I agree with the author that this witchhunt against FlavaWorks is so bogus.

I don't understand why the story is being printed by bloggers without questioning who might be behind it, or why Flava was 1)selected 2) singled out; especially when Playboy is making billions from their less than upstanding porn.

Journalists should always investigate and go beyond the pale! Ask questions!!

Don't just reprint news like a tabloid, cause then you'll be used as a tool for groups who have a stake in publicizing these fraudulent stories that encourage homophobia within the gay community.

May 13, 2007 9:46 PM

<$BlogCommentAuthor$> said...

"Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one and they usually only matter to their owners"

In discourse it's much easier to convey an ideal verbally than it is in print. There is no way that you can fit in every point and defense that you'll need for those determined to portray you in a bad light. You can go back and forth until the cows come home, what really matters in life is what you do. All that's happening at the moment is a bunch of verbal masturbation at how well you think you can type something and end it with a clever closing statement. To ALL the message posters, ask yourself if all your doing is typing your outrage onto some (with respect to the owners) innocuous blog, how much change are you really affecting?

I am neither condoning or condemning the dorm place, cause in the end what does my morality matter to them? I’m just someone who works with troubled youth everyday at a gay and lesbian center, and I mean EVERYDAY, with kids that are homeless because their fathers raped them and the family didn’t believe them to kids with veins so destroyed from shooting up that they resort to sticking needles in the flesh under their eyeball to get high. How many of the problems of the world can be resolved if people just stopped talking about it and did something? If you’re more than just an "armchair activist", understand that you're point has been made in print in these blogs and no more can be done in that arena. And I’m applying this to ALL the posters.

Now get up and go do something more. Move your bones and be active and make change. Become a stick or a stone. Because we all know that words will never (in the long run), hurt anyone

Notice the clever closing statement there?

May 14, 2007 11:42 AM


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